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Posted on September 20 at 3:26 p.m.Suggest removal
sf,
To kill is a sin in Christianity including if done in the effort of proselytizing. This does not mean it has not been done for it has been, and way too many times to count.
But, in Islam, it is not a sin to kill in this same act. Mohammed and his followers did this as is attested to in the Qur'an, hadiths and Sunna.
Christ was a man of peace. Mohammed was not. Their example - although not always followed - have steered the directions both Christians and Muslims have taken. It is little wonder why almost every single Muslim nation is ruled by a cruel, repressive despot or theocrat, for this defines who Mohammed was as well.
In sharp contrast Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's."
Jesus also turned the other cheek.
I encourage you to read books by Robert Spencer, Ibn Warraq, Raymond Ibrahim and others to better understand just how profoundly different Islam is from Christianity.
Posted on September 20 at 10:29 a.m.Suggest removal
Steven,
How, then, do you explain why Muslims wiped out the Buddhists in Afghanistan many centuries ago? Was that also America's fault?
And how do you explain the 5,000 Buddhists killed by Muslims in recetn years in southern Thailand? Is that also America's fault?
And what of the millions of black Africans killed by Muslims over the centuries and most recently in Sudan? Is this also America's fault?
And why did Muslims side with Hitler against the Jews? Was that America's fault too?
Did you know that there were tens of millions of Hindus killed by Muslims when the invaded southern Asia? Was that America's fault?
And what of the 1.5 million Armenians killid by Muslims in-and-around 1917? America's fault?
Steven, when are you going to study Islam, its Qur'an, hadiths and Sunna, because until you do you will remain living under the misperception that Islam is a peaceful, not an agressive supremacist religion which is what it really is.
Steven, Mohammed was a warrior. I know that's news to you, but it's true. Check it out in the Muslim holy books if you don't believe me.
Posted on September 13 at 10:52 a.m.Suggest removal
Joy,
Here is some information on the Barbary Coast Wars.
March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:
It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.
Posted on September 13 at 10:48 a.m.Suggest removal
Joy,
One of our nation's first international wars was the Barbary Coast Wars. It was made necessary by the Muslim pirates operating out of Tunis, Alexandria and other north Africans ports making trade routes in the Mediterranean impossible. I'd encourage both you and Jason to learn more about Islam's wars of aggression, the Qur'an and Mohammed's life to enable you to address these issues with a greater understanding.
Posted on September 12 at 12:13 p.m.Suggest removal
Jason, you fail to address the aggression by Muslims against all "others." Why are muslims attacking Buddhists in southern Thailand? Why are Muslims wiping out what is left of the indigenous Hindus in Pakistan? Is aggressive Jihad a core tent of Islam? You seem to think not, but history and knowledge of the Qur'an suggests something very different.
Posted on September 11 at 6:48 p.m.Suggest removal
With all due respect, mkettleman, you're wrong on this issue. The Qur'an, Hadiths and Sunna - Ilsma's holy books - are filled with verses that encourage violence against non-believers and/or apostates from Islam. Why do you suggest Imams - those who know the religion the best - are frequently heard cajoling Muslims to do violence against others? Finally, Islam's prophet (mohammed) was himself a violent man and this is made very clear in the Qur'an, Hadiths and Sunna.. I wish it were not so but it is.
Posted on September 11 at 3:03 p.m.Suggest removal
Jason, please quit blaming America for Islam's aggression. How do you explain Muslims killing Buddhists in southern Thailand? How do you explain Muslims killing Animists in Sudan? How do you explain Muslims killing Chinese in NW China? How do you explain Muslims killing Christians in Nigeria? How do you explain Muslims killing Zoroastrians in Iran? Gays in Yemen? Shi'ites in Iraq and Sunnis in Syria? How do you explain the explosive rampage by Muslims from the get-go? Within 300 years of its formation Islam had invaded and conquered all of the Middle East, all of northern Africa, huge sections of Asia, Spain, Siciliy, much of southern Frace. Was this also America's fault?
Or...could it be Islam's fault?
Posted on August 20 at 9:05 a.m.Suggest removal
Nolan, your ideals are enviable but that does not make them real. They are - pure and simple - ideals with little relationship to the real world.
The US helped NATO attack the Libyan GaDaffy forces and to what end? Now Islamists rule: women live in even greater fear and the same is true for minorities and Libyan's hatred of the West is only greater.
The US (for all its incompetence) has tried hard power (Iraq, Afghanistan,etc...) and soft power with its endless aid to countries like Egypt, Lebanon, Pakistan and elsewhere. And to what end? We're hated (as are all non-Islamic countires) no matter what we do.
Now you seem to think that is our fault. That if we simply handled these affairs with more senstivity that the end result would be different, but the facts on the ground contradict your thesis. Not only are Americans vilified but so are Europeans, Hindus, atheists, Jews, black Africans, Buddhists, Russians, Chinese, etc...
The only common denominator in all this is Islam. It si there that you will find the reasons for all these problems. I suggest you read some books by people like Robert Spencer or Fjordman or Bostom to get a very real understanding for where the problem originaites.
Posted on August 20 at 8:51 a.m.Suggest removal
Your compariison to Iraq is a poor one. Under Saddam Hussein Iraq attacked the Kurds in the north and the Shia in the south with poison gases.
Under Hussein Iraq led a seven year war with Iran resulting in one million dead.
Under Hussein all opposition voices were permamently "silenced".
Iraq makes Syria look like child's play not the other way around.
Posted on September 21 at 12:12 p.m.Suggest removal
Mythman, you don’t seem to realize even the elementary theological differences between Islam and other Abrahamic religions.
They all call their texts holy, but the difference is that the Torah or the Bible are not considered to be dictated by God. The Quran is. The Quran is supposed to be, word by word, “Allah”‘s work, dictated directly in Arabic, literally and unchangeable in all eternity, to Muhammad. There is no historicity, there is no societal evolution, there is no modernization regarded as legitimate.
How many Jews do you know today who want or even conceive of “slaying both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass”?
How many Muslims are there who can conceive and want to enact these or similarly horrific acts? You may say it’s a minority, but this – very far from tiny – minority has the theology on its side.
You shan’t find any mainstream Islamic theologian, accepted as such in an Islamic country, to ever talk about “more radical parts of the Koran”. Given that the Quran is the direct and literal Word of “God,” no part of the Quran can be judged as less than eternal and perfect by the submissive Muslim.
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